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The Charter Commission's Final Word
September 2nd, 2010

The city Charter Revision Commission has issued its final report (available here) on its six months of work.

The 219-page document includes the two proposals that will appear on the November ballot — one on term limits and the other a potpourri of measures related to “elections and government administration.” These include requiring disclosure of independent campaign expenditures, reducing the number of signatures prospective candidates must receive to qualify for the ballot and increasing the penalties for conflicts of interest. The commission did “not recommend change at this time” to loosen the mayor’s iron grip on the Conflicts of Interest Board, which seems to make members of his administration exempt from penalties, whatever their size.

The report offers background on the issue, texts of the proposed amendments and lots of supporting materials along with information on commission members, staff and procedures.

It also includes a section on items for future consideration, including nonpartisan (or to use the current parlance, top-two) elections. Although the commission heard testimony on this issue from experts and the general public, the report said, “Many commission members, regardless of their personal feelings about top-two elections, expressed doubts about placing a proposal on the ballot without further consideration.”

Amid its official tone, there are some nuggets here and there. For example, on term limits (the issue that for all intents and purposes led to creation of the commission) the report attributes the move to extend them in 2008 to the City Council. As for the mayor’s role: He established the Charter Commission and ” asked that the voters be given another opportunity to weigh in on the issue.”

Somehow that isn’t quite how we remember it.

By Gail Robinson on September 2, 2010, 4:06 pm
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Voters Very Undecided on AG Race
September 2nd, 2010

The new Quinnipiac Poll shows what the last one did–voters mostly have no idea which Democrat they will vote for in the Sept. 14 primary.  The last poll showed 81 percent of Democratic voters undecided, the latest poll puts the number at 77.

Only 4 percent of voters say they plan to vote for Nassau County DA Kathleen Rice, 3 percent for Sen. Eric Schneiderman, 1 percent for Assemblymember Richard Brodsky and 1 percent for Sean Coffey. Meanwhile 2 percent say they won’t vote and 5 percent refused to answer.

The poll goes a long way to showing why the candidates are still desperatly trying to differentiate themselves from one another.

Sen. Eric Schneiderman picked up more endorsements today and it seems that he is hell-bent on winning the race on votes from the city and minorities.

By David King on September 2, 2010, 2:07 pm
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Schneiderman Attacked, Gets More Endorsements
September 1st, 2010

Sen. Eric Schneiderman was a no show for a debate in Albany today and Nassau County District Attorney took the opportunity to jab the senator on a number of occasions.

Particularly Rice attacked Schneiderman over a bill she favors that would increase the penalties for luring a child over the internet. Rice said the bill has “languished” in the senate codes committee for “over a year.” Her campaign released a television ad attacking Schneiderman on the issue.

Schneiderman’s campaign issued a rebuttal, saying that Rice does not understand the law. In the TV spot Rice says the bill she supports would make luring a child over the internet a felony. Luring a child over the internet is already a felony in the state. Schneiderman’s campaign said he voted for a law that made it so in 2008.

Here is a statement from Schneiderman’s campaign manager:

With all due respect, now we know why multiple editorial pages have said in recent days that Ms. Rice lacks a grasp of the issues facing this office,” Schneiderman campaign manager Emily Arsenault said today. “While Ms. Rice called for making internet luring a felony in her commercial, it already is one. And while she attacked Eric Schneiderman for not supporting making internet luring a felony, it turns out he voted for a luring bill that was enacted in 2008, while Ms. Rice’s preferred measure would actually require more proof than currently required to convict. If Ms. Rice wants to actually make it harder to convict internet predators, that’s her right, but she should make sure she has the facts straight.”

Meanwhile Schneiderman was endorsed by El Diario and Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney.

Here is Maloney’s statement:

“I’m proud to endorse Eric Schneiderman for Attorney General, he’s the best person for the job,” said  Maloney. “There is no one who is better prepared, more experienced or a stronger advocate for working families than Eric Schneiderman. Whether it’s fighting for women’s rights, economic justice or government reform, Eric has stood up for progressive values and delivered results for all New Yorkers. We need a fierce defender of the people of New York to be Attorney General, there’s only one option: elect Eric Schneiderman on September 14th.”

Wayne Barrett of the Village Voice is not so happy to see Schneiderman riding the wave of recent endorsements and challenges his independence in this recent post.

By David King on September 1, 2010, 6:13 pm
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Rivera and Padernacht Debate
September 1st, 2010

Here is the BronxTalk debate between Sen. Pedro Espada’s Democratic challengers Gustavo Rivera and Daniel Padernacht. Thanks to the Bronx News Network for the link. Espada did not show for the debate and Rivera slammed him for it.

By David King on September 1, 2010, 2:12 pm
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Rice Says She Won't Seek Higher Office Than AG
September 1st, 2010

Nassau County District Attorney Kathleen Rice has changed her tune on seeking higher office if she were to complete her bid to become attorney general.

At the Citizens Union debate on July 21 I asked the candidates if they would pledge not to seek the governorship in their next two terms as attorney general, if they were elected. All of the candidates indicated that they would not run for governor except for Rice.

“I think that these kinds of pledges are all show. It is ridiculous to say to someone, ‘make a pledge now’ before you’ve even done the job you’re running for,” she said at the time.

Today at a debate in Albany hosted by WAMC Rice had a different answer to the question. She said she does not have her “sights set on a higher office.”

“I just refused to engage in political gimmickry,” she said, apparently referring to my earlier question. She said she has “no other plans but to serve…as attorney general.”

Sen. Eric Schneiderman did not show for the debate. He and Rice did not attend debate the previous night in Rochester.

By David King on September 1, 2010, 1:26 pm
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Lessons from the 2009 Elections
September 1st, 2010

Looking back at the 2009 city elections, the city Campaign Finance Board is urging changes in laws governing how elections are paid for in the city. In particular, the board reiterates its call for the city to ban all campaign contributions by organizations. Although the board does not say so in so many words, this would forbid donations by labor unions, a move the City Council has rejected.

Overall the board, in its required report on last year’s campaigns, finds the city’s public financing of campaigns — and the rules about how those funds are provided — encouraged small donors and made the elections more competitive. It found many people opened their wallets to candidates who had never done so before and that most gave $175 or less. (Perhaps not coincidentally, the city only provides a full — six to one — match for the first $175 of a contribution made by a New Yorker.)

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By Gail Robinson on September 1, 2010, 1:02 pm
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Gustavo Rivera Slams Espada For Dodging Debate
August 30th, 2010

Gustavo Rivera, the man challenging Sen. Pedro Espada for his senate seat,  is steaming mad that Espada finked out on a BronxTalk debate that took place at 9 p.m. today.

Here is the statement from Rivera’s camp:

Gustavo Rivera, candidate for the 33rd Senate District issued the following statement on Pedro Espada’s failure to attend tonight’s Bronx Talk debate:
“In two short years, scandal-ridden Pedro Espada has betrayed his fellow Democrats, taken money from slumlords to block tenants’ rights laws, and stands accused of stealing millions from Bronx health clinics.  He has even stooped to challenging constituents to fistfights rather than talk to them.

Our community has lots of questions for Espada, and tonight we were supposed to get some answers.  But instead of directly addressing his own constituents, Espada has let us down again.  Espada declared he would debate me anytime, anywhere. But when the chance came, Espada decided to cut and run.

Espada can run from tonight’s debate, but he can’t run from the people of the Northwest Bronx. On September 14th, we will have a chance to make change and elect a Senator who put our community first.”

By David King on August 30, 2010, 11:52 pm
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Special Election Called for November
August 30th, 2010

As predicted, the special election to replace the late Thomas White on the City Council was called by Mayor Michael Bloomberg today for November 2.

Here is the release from the mayor’s office.

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg today announced that a special non-partisan election will be held in the 28th Council District on November 2nd, the date of the regularly scheduled general election, to fill the vacancy created by the passing of Council Member Thomas White, Jr. Pursuant to the City Charter, the nomination of candidates in the election will be by independent nominating petition, rather than through a party primary.

The newly elected Council Member will serve until December 31, 2011. A second election to fill the remainder of the term will be held on Election Day in November 2011.

By Courtney Gross on August 30, 2010, 4:35 pm
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Nunes Says Nothing Changes
August 30th, 2010

Candidate Lynn Nunes says he is sticking with his race for State Senate in district 10, despite the fact a seat he narrowly lost last year opened up in the council.

Nunes lost to the late Thomas White last fall by just four votes. White died last week after a long battle with cancer. No special election has been called yet to fill the seat, but observers say one could be held as soon as November 2.

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We caught up with Nunes today to see if his plans have changed.

“We’re not focusing on losing,” Nunes said. “We’re gonna win. There is no need to worry about a plan b.”

For more on the race, go here.

By Courtney Gross on August 30, 2010, 2:54 pm
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Weekly Web Wrap
August 27th, 2010

Group Picked for Living Wage Study Called Biased
(Bronx News Network)
Claim that America has Killed More than Islam is Fact
(The American Conservative)
Mosques Curb Domestic Radicalization
(The American Prospect)
Closest Senior Center May be a Mile Away
(IBO Web Blog)
Cartoonist’s Take on Legislators’ Office Spending
(Matt Davies)
Tennis Courts to Get Carbon Neutral Composting Toilets
(Inhabitat)
Reimagining “Towers in the Park”
(Urban Omnibus)
No Reason to Wait on Paid Sick Leave
(DMI Blog)
Men Die Younger than Women
(Health Department)
Albany’s 2010 Transportation Wrap Up
(Tri-State Transportation Campaign)
A Return of the Full Face Ballot Requirement?
(ReformNY)
Correction: No State Records on Bike-on-Pedestrian Injuries
(Streetsblog)

By Mike Muller on August 27, 2010, 9:54 pm
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Liu and de Blasio for Gustavo Rivera
August 27th, 2010

Gustavo Rivera, the man who is challenging Sen. Pedro Espada for his Bronx senate seat, has been racking up the endorsements as of late. The most recent come from City Comptroller John Liu and Public Advocate Bill de Blasio.

“Gustavo Rivera and I share the belief in equal opportunities and access to good schools, quality health care, and affordable housing,” said  Liu.  “Gustavo is a true champion of working families and will fight every day to put the people of the Northwest Bronx first.”

“It’s no secret that we need real change in Albany and I believe Gustavo Rivera is the kind of reformer New Yorkers need fighting for them,” said  de Blasio.  “He will be a strong voice for issues New Yorkers care about including tenants’ rights and for housing that is safe, secure and affordable. I am proud to endorse Gustavo’s candidacy for the State Senate.”

Rivera was also recently endorsed by former Mayor Ed Koch and Sen. Eric Schneiderman.

Espada has been endorsed by his close pal Sen. Ruben Diaz and a group of Hispanic ministers.

By David King on August 27, 2010, 3:59 pm
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Councilmember Tom White Dies
August 27th, 2010

Here is the statement from Council Speaker Christine Quinn regarding the death of Tom White: website_photo_9_02_08

“My deepest sympathies go out to the family of Council Member Tom White; his mother Marie White, his children: Bryan D. White, Lucile Precious Middleton, daughter-in-law Seleste White and grandchildren Lamar White and Jacob. Tom spent most his life serving the people of Southeast Queens, working to support communities that faced great challenges. As chair of our Economic Development Committee he fought for programs that helped many of these neighborhoods on the path to recovery.

“He searched for ways to break the cycle of poverty and violence. He fought for job training and placement programs, and investments in long term economic growth. He had a particular soft spot for women and minority business owners, pushing for additional resources to help them stay afloat and create good jobs for their neighbors.

“Throughout a government career that spanned two decades, he balanced his work on the City Council with public service of another variety. As Executive Director of one of the largest substance abuse programs in the state, he cared for New Yorkers who have often been marginalized, forgotten, and incarcerated from an early age. He gave them hope, a shot at redemption, and a chance to build a better life.

“Though Tom has left us, he remains present in the lives he touched and the impact he made on the face of our city. The thousands of New Yorkers he helped shepherd away from the jaws of addiction; the small business owner given a chance to build her own American dream here in the five boroughs; the working family that can now afford to stay in the home they built; the child who will grow up with cleaner air and safer streets.

“The New Yorkers whose lives have been made better, in ways both large and small, thanks to the laws Tom sponsored and the causes he championed. It is through them that Tom White will truly be memorialized.”

And from Mayor Michael Bloomberg:

“My friend Council Member Tom White lost a long battle with cancer today, and on behalf of all New Yorkers, I want to express my condolences. Born and raised in Queens, Tom spent over 30 years trying to improve his Southeast Queens community, and not just through his work with the City Council. He was the executive director of J-CAP, which serves Queens with a recognized alcohol and substance abuse treatment program. He served as Chair of the Council’s economic development committee, and because of his efforts, we were able to create programs that range from providing loans to help small businesses stay afloat and grow to helping New Yorkers avoid foreclosures. Tom’s legacy will live on in the results of his work, and my thoughts and prayers are with his family and loved ones.”

By Courtney Gross on August 27, 2010, 1:45 pm
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Coffey Gets More Endorsements
August 26th, 2010

Gotham Gazette’s Alana Horowitz filed this from Brooklyn:

As Sen. Eric Schneiderman added another name — Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer — to his rapidly growing list of endorsements for attorney general, fellow candidate Sean Coffey announced a few of his own.

Assemblyman Karim Camara and several members of the Brooklyn clergy convened at Brooklyn Borough Hall to show their support for the formal naval officer. Rep. Ed Towns, who endorsed Coffey earlier this month, also attended the event.

“He’s a man who comes in with a mind of reform,” said Camara, who stressed Coffey’s record as a litigator and a federal prosecutor. Coffey’s role in winning a $6 billion securities suit against WorldCom once earned him the nickname “Wall Street’s New Nemesis.”

Additional praise for Coffey included his commitment to creating affordable housing and fighting housing fraud.

“Sean Coffey knows the problems and pain that the people of Brooklyn are feeling and he has a plan to help relieve it,” said the Rev. Clinton Miller of the Brown Memorial Baptist Church.
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By Courtney Gross on August 26, 2010, 4:12 pm
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Brodsky Releases Environmental Plan
August 26th, 2010

Assemblyman Richard Brodsky, candidate for attorney general, has released an environmental plan. Here are the highlights from his office:

““Polluter Pays”

Simply stated, the states laws should be enforced to assure that
taxpayers do not bear the burden of cleaning up corporate pollution,
citizens do not bear economic burden and the public does not bear the
health and safety burdens caused by such pollution. As a result, the
Brodsky plan proposes three main ways that polluters can be held
accountable by actions taken directly by the Attorney General:

Reforming the “Oil Spill Fund” and Empowering the DEC: The State Oil
Spill Fund was created to collect fines and penalties from polluters
that will enable the state to clean orphaned pollution sites without
the taxpayers being forced to foot the bill. Only the most vigorous
enforcement of the law will yield sufficient money to clean up these
sites, thereby protecting taxpayers. Richard will use the powers of
the Attorney General’s office to partner with the DEC to collect these
fines in earnest and ensure that the public is protected.

Citizen Suits: The “Polluter Pays” principal can also be asserted by
private citizens who seek to enforce state law when the state does
not. As Attorney General, Brodsky will re-introduce his “Citizen
Suits” legislation (A.4272) as a program bill legislation. This
legislation would provide private citizens with the right to seek
enforcement through the courts in instances involving violations of
those provisions of the ECL relating to protection of waters, water
supply, water power, drainage, solid and hazardous waste, freshwater
and tidal wetlands, pesticides and hazardous substances bulk storage.

Protecting Our Aquifers, Cleaning up Toxic Waste: There must be far
stronger and more efficient regulatory enforcement of the efficient
disposal of the waste products that were created my Manufactured Gas
Plants (MGPS)- which is a glaringly huge issue facing Long Island.
Currently, a NYS DEC consent order lists 23 sites on Long Island where
waste products containing numerous toxic and carcinogenic compounds
were recklessly dumped by MGPS over a 100-year period. Richard will
investigate, and if necessary, prosecute utility companies who are not
making the best possible effort to remediate this problem quickly and
effectively.

Brodsky said: “As Attorney General, I will set a national standard for
the effective enforcement of environmental laws. Today, there are a
myriad of environmental laws currently in place that could go a long
way to holding polluters accountable, but are not adequately enforced.
Also, there are issues that need to be addressed that will need new,
aggressive statuary changes and I will lead the fight to implement
them.”

A Constitutional Right to Clean and Safe Environment

Assemblyman Brodsky has led a national effort to enshrine in the
United States Constitution the right to a clean and safe environment.
This initiative, when first proposed in 1996, was supported by
legislative bodies in 5 states. He proposes that the New York State
Constitution be amended to contain the same right.

Brodsky said: “The New York State Constitution has long been a vehicle
for principles that help new Yorkers live better, safer and happier
lives. There is no more basic right then the right to breathe clean
air, drink clean water and be safe from toxic pollution in our
communities.”

Environmental Enforcement Initiatives:

Environmental Enforcement by the Attorney General is key to promoting
public health changes and improvements. Some of the key issues that
Richard will confront head-on upon taking office are as follows:

Fracking: The statewide debate about fracking has highlighted
potential long-term danger to drinking water in our state. While the
legislature continues to debate a moratorium on fracking, and while
DEC continues the regulatory process. The Attorney General has
particular responsibilities, which must be exercised. As Attorney
General, Richard will use existing powers to appoint a Watershed
Inspector General (WIG) who is thoroughly versed on this issue.
Richard will use the office of the WIG to make certain that New York
City’s drinking water is never compromised.  The WIG needs to be a
central part of the statewide debate and to lead efforts to protect
water quality, as the direct employer of the WIG, Attorney General
Brodsky will make sure this happens.

“Environmental Justice”: For too long, there has been an inequitable
pattern in the siting of environmental facilities in minority and
economically distressed communities, which have borne a
disproportionate and inequitable share of such facilities. Brodsky
will continue to support his long-standing legislative initiative
(A.4245) that would require the state to factor in disproportionate or
inequitable burdens on minority communities or economically distressed
areas under the State Environmental Quality Review Act (SEQRA).
Richard will launch investigations into incidences where this practice
is being alleged, and require the issuance of all Environmental Impact
Statements to take into consideration these issues, and also use the
Department of Health’s Cancer Incidence Mapping System that Richard
created this year (A.199) to determine if the siting of environmental
facilities is linked to cancer incidences.

Environmental enforcement on Special Taxing Districts: All across New
York, local governments have created “Special Taxing Districts” which
have particular responsibilities to levy and collect taxes.  In many
cases, such districts provide water and wastewater management services
and have often acted in ways that damage the environment-notably
because they are often unregulated by state and federal statutes, or
chose to disobey them. As Attorney General, Brodsky will not permit
this to continue, and will apply state laws in ways that they are not
currently being applied even as we seek federal reforms.

Brodsky said: “New York’s various state agencies, public utilities and
local governments need to all work together to protect our environment
and public health. As Attorney General, I will enact sweeping reforms
and enforcement provisions that will enable us to jointly reach this
goal.””

By David King on August 26, 2010, 3:18 pm
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Ethics Hearing Minutes Released
August 26th, 2010

For your reading pleasure, the City Council released the minutes from the closed-door ethics hearing on Councilmember Ydanis Rodriguez’s poking incident.

Here they are below.

Ydanis Minutes

By Courtney Gross on August 26, 2010, 1:24 pm
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Rice Goes After Schneiderman's Past (Update)
August 26th, 2010

City Hall published an article today looking at Sen. Eric Schneiderman’s role as a deputy sheriff in Massachusetts. Schneiderman has claimed the role as a qualifying experience in law enforcement and said that he ran a drug treatment program.

“Either Senator Schneiderman has lied to the public about his past and his qualifications to be attorney general or his campaign is lying about his work history now to cover his tracks,” said Eric Phillips, spokesman for DA Rice’s campaign.

Schneiderman’s campaign has had a monumental last few days–receiving endorsements from the New York Times, Rev. Al Sharpton, and Scott Stringer.

Update: The Schneiderman campaign is touting this statement from Schneiderman’s former boss.

STATEMENT FROM BERKSHIRE COUNTY SHERIFF CARMEN MASSIMIANO:

“I can attest with 100 percent certainty that Eric Schneiderman was a Deputy Sheriff in Berkshire County in the late 1970s. When I took office on December 28th, 1978, Mr. Schneiderman was a Deputy Sheriff on the staff of the Berkshire County Sheriff’s Office, Jail and House of Correction, assigned to the Human Services Office, where he was instrumental in forming the first comprehensive drug and alcohol treatment program at the jail and house of correction.”

By David King on August 26, 2010, 1:17 pm
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Koch Endorses Gustavo Rivera
August 26th, 2010

Former Mayor Ed Koch has come out in favor Gustavo Rivera the man who is thought to have the best chance to defeat Sen. Pedro Espada in the Democratic primary. Espada is listed on Koch’s NY Uprising site as a “hero of reform” because Espada signed Koch’s good government pledge but Koch has made his distaste for Espada pretty darn clear.

“Guys like Pedro Espada inspired the term ‘throw the bums out,’ and if there is anyone in Albany who deserves an early retirement, it’s him,” said Koch in a statement. “In order to make Albany truly work for our communities again, the reform movement needs partners like Gustavo Rivera in the legislature.  I am impressed by Gustavo’s commitment to meaningful reform, to his community, and to the Bronx.  He’s got the skills to get the job done and the integrity to get it done ethically, and next year his service will be needed in order to accomplish independent redistricting, responsible budgeting and ethics reform, as well as other substantive measures, and I look forward to working with him on these when he’s elected to the State Senate.”

Here is the entire release from the Rivera campaign:

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By David King on August 26, 2010, 1:00 pm
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Getting Your Say on Charter Revision
August 26th, 2010

Want to tell all registered voters what you think about the two ballot proposals approved by the Charter Revision Commission?

Here’s your chance.

The Campaign Finance Board is asking for pro and con submissions on the charter reform proposals to include in its voter guide.

To learn more, go here.

By Courtney Gross on August 26, 2010, 12:04 pm
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Tale of Two AG Campaigns
August 25th, 2010

Assemblymember Richard Brodsky spent the morning in Brooklyn, campaigning at senior centers and bingo games. The assemblyman — and candidate for state attorney general — drove himself around the Bensonhurst area in a black Honda, his seatbelt unbuckled, the seatbelt warning signal beeping periodically, all while he made cell phone calls to arrange future campaign stops.

Over the course of the day he would storm into church basements where bingo games were taking place and, after being introduced by the local assemblymember, would announce semi-jokingly, “I am Richard Brodsky. I am a fantastic person and great politician and I am running for attorney general.” Seniors would cheer when he was introduced as the man who “fought the MTA.” At each stop he would end his speech quickly so the bingo games could resume in a speedy fashion.

Brodsky said the campaign has been humbling, because despite his many years in the legislature, he has to introduce himself to a whole new set of voters who are not familiar with his accomplishments.

The hot issue of the day was the building of the Islamic center near ground zero. A number of seniors approached Brodsky and demanded to know his stance. Brodsky told them what he has been saying since he was asked the question months ago at an ABC debate: “The mosque being built in that area is offensive to me.” Brodsky told the seniors that if elected attorney general he would defend the right of the mosque to be there, but he would rather it was built somewhere else.

“They are trying to build the thing on a graveyard,” said Murray Redlitz, who was enjoying the music and lunch at the Sephardic Multi Service Senior Center on Kings Highway. “If we had recovered all the bodies it would be different,” he said. Brodsky told Redlitz he found the mosque plan “distasteful.” Afterward, Brodsky said his stand on the matter differentiates from the pack of Democratic candidates.

While Brodsky seems to be playing more of the moderate, one of his opponents, Sen. Eric Schneiderman, has been touting his own credentials as a progressive.

Earlier this evening Schneiderman stood on the steps of City Hall and received the endorsement of Rev. Al Sharpton. Schneiderman has been directing the voters’ focus to his role in reforming the Rockefeller drug laws, his stance on illegal guns, his legislation that counts prisoners where they live instead of where they are imprisoned and his slogan: “equal, progressive and independent justice.”

On Monday, Schneiderman spoke at a forum on gun violence in Albany and talked about forming a coalition to combat the gun lobby.

On the mosque issue, Schneiderman has stood with Mayor Michael Bloomberg in supporting the developer’s right to build the mosque in the current proposed location.

By David King on August 25, 2010, 8:12 pm
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Sharpton for Schneiderman
August 25th, 2010

The endorsements for Eric Schneiderman continue. Just a few minutes ago, Al Sharpton announced on the City Hall steps that he “unequivocally” and “enthusiastically” backed the state senator for state attorney general.

Apparently the announcement had been slated to take place later but Sharpton is about to leave to prepare for Saturday’s Reclaim the Dream march in Washington so made his declaration today.

By Gail Robinson on August 25, 2010, 5:27 pm
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